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Hi,new to the group, I would like to know what technical name for this is, the second toe on both feet is…

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Hi,new to the group, I would like to know what technical name for this is, the second toe on both feet is bent, the left one bends to the left and the right one bends to the right as you can see in the photos, the first photo is weight-bearing and the second one is not, I have searched but can't find anything except for hammertoe, mallet toe etc, they don't flex up or down so there must be another name for it, also I can mostly straighten them with my fingers so they're not rigid, so just wondering if maybe they can have keyhole surgery to straighten them because it might just be a tight tendon ? They have been like this my whole life, Thank you anyone for any advice

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Following; I have the same thing. One was corrected with a permanent crew in the tip. Don’t do it!

what's the reason you say don't do it, from what I've read keyhole surgery is minimally invasive where as if you have to have more involved surgery they have to remove a section of the bone in the joint and you have a k-wire which I don't think I would want to have done given that you can't weight bare for several weeks and it takes several months for recovery, not to mention the pain

The position of your toe is not a condition per say, its more an anatomical variation or positional change. The closest condition would likely be a subluxation or dislocation of the last joint of your toe, however like i mentioned this can be an anatomical variation. The best option would be to speak with an orthopedic or podiatric surgeon as each surgeon has techniques they like and prefer, and they will be able to provide the best advice regarding function vs aesthetic correction. X-rays may be helpful to determine what's happening at the joint and would provide more details about your options for surgery. Hope that helps 🙂 , sorry I can't provide an exact diagnosis.

I had the joint removed and a permanent compression screw is buried in the fusion. It affects your gait (much more than you would expect)! My surgeon advised me to do that cause he said the toe would start curling again if he did anything else. That’s not true and he should have been sued, the jerk. . (My joint was flexible and other soft tissue corrections would have left me with a more functional toe.)I also had to have an additional surgery to shorten the toe because I had a long second toe to begin with. The fusion stiffness caused it to be nearly impossible to comfortably wear shoes. So now my second toe is quite shorten but can at least fit in a athletic shoe. That’s all I’ve been able to wear since the first surgery 5 years ago. That’s why I think the soft tissue procedures allow you to get back into shoes more comfortably. Get several opinions.

yeah that's why I don't want to have a section of the joint, or as you had removed, because of the issues with it which is why I'm hoping I could just have keyhole surgery which apparently is minimally invasive and apparently you can weight bare within a day or two and recovery is much quicker, the toe on my right foot is worse than the other and as I have a tailor's bunion on the same foot which is painful 24/7 I thought if I had to have surgery for that I may aswell get my toe straightened at the same time but that depends of course on the procedure

I looked that up and it mostly comes up with big toe deformities and phalanges of the hand but not really much on the second toe

, this would be how I would described clinically. Is there anything particular your looking to find? In regards to surgical corrections, I’m not a surgeon but there are procedures they can do for the alignment, they generally are trying to achieve alignment over function with these. Being flexible maybe some of DLwalkers taping techniques may help with the alignment. Hope this helps 😊

mostly I just want to know exactly what the condition of my toe is called so that I could look up surgical options to see if I could have minimally invasive surgery as I do not want the joint removed or a section of it removed, I would prefer to have function over aesthetics

Agree with Travis on the clinical term. How are you limited functionally. That usually can be corrected more easily than the aesthetics.

not limited too much functionally but it has just recently started to get a little bit pain in it, not too bad though and at the moment it would be more about aesthetics, but I have always hated them my whole life, I would probably not go down the surgical route if it wasn't minimally invasive

the way to help it both aesthetically and functionally, is to determine the root cause of it and then address those to see how much correction you are able to achieve. Just by looking at photos, there are 2 possibilities that I see. 1. Is that your shoes are too short. Like me you have a longer second toe. 2. Is that you are not getting enough weight into your big toe and you are gripping the floor for balance using your 2nd toe. If you are wanting to hear how 1 of my programs would provide you with a non-surgical option, PM me.

I did mention in my post that I have had these bent toes for as long as I can remember as far back as when I was just little

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