Why does my pinky toe run into the outside of the Toebox?

idk man. These are a 4E ASICS

notice the point I made about the pinky toes being in the incorrect spot. I wonder if I’m onto something or not.

Give me a sec and I will show a split comparison of the soles with the mid-line drawn in

Ugh it's going to take me a bit...new laptop apparently my photo software needs me to put in a license, etc

Idk. I think they’re too long maybe. Can’t figure it out.

Notice the shoe on the left is much narrower in the toe box than the one on the right. The left is the Venture the right is the Kayano.

I have a wide toe box issue...there are very few non-minimalist/barefoot shoes I can wear because of it. The Kayano is currently one I can.

I got the keyanos but they seem tight. How snug do u like yours.

Not tight in the toes, but I need a lightly snug midsole to hold my tendons together. I like to be able to splay my toes though

yeah Idk why I am measured as a 9 2e when I can NEVER fit into even a 9.5 4E

how wide do they go? I only see extra wide on Amazon. How wide is that compared to other shoes

I don't buy wide. The toe box is naturally wide. You would really need to try them on in person. I would suggest looking for a running store and seeing if they can do a gait analysis and if they have the software that does a digital fit.

yeah I’ve done all that in many stores. They’ve never been any help

kinda done trusting in “experts”

what size is your foot? Are you measured as a wide

No, only my toe box is wide. If I wear a wide, my foot slides around inside if I'm on a hill, etc. (my yard is a hill)

well I’m measured 2e so…

I would try them from zappos, since you can easily send them back if you can't get them in store.

Hmmmm Still anxious since I can’t answer my questions. Used to wear DENALI birch for years and now they don’t fit. I’ve tried other trail shoes but many aren’t wide enough. all these running shoes squeeze as a way to secure your foot and I don’t like it, but idk what else to buy. 😞. I’ve bought hundreds of pairs of shoes. Returned most but got stuck with some of them. Unhappy as hell

another question. Do some shoes have a raised area on the pad bc it feels that way sometimes

Some have a metatarsal pad built in. You can swap out the pad for a different one though.

but it’s soooo hard for me to find one 😞

Try Superfeet insoles

If you have a Walking Company nearby or even within an hour, they have a whole system you can go through to find the right insole for you, and they have their own (not Superfeet). Our's closed and I was seriously bummed.

eh. Idk. Maybe. Been to many of these types of places and they don’t help me much

I also got a pair of the brooks Adrenaline GTS 22 Men's Supportive Running Shoe

I used to love brooks adrenaline and they were my go-to but this last time (I JUST got these Kayanos a couple of weeks ago), the adrenalines just were a smidge too narrow in the toe box.

I don’t think the adenosine are as wide as I would like and the ASICS I first mentioned are smaller. I may stick with the brooks

If you haven't tried, you could also try Altra...they have a more natural foot shape, meaning their toe box is bigger. But they're not for everyone.

I could try them again but I think I was getting the “squeeze” effect from those as well

There is a Minimalist/Barefoot shoe group...they have more knowledge about what shoes fit wider toe boxes but they're minimal/barefoot shoes...which means there's not a lot of support (many you can add an insert or orthotic, though if needed). I would try the Minimalist Shoe Buy/Sell/Trade group (it's not just for BST, you can just get info in there, too), just to get info. If you measure your feet length and toe box width, they would have better suggestions for shoes meant to fit actual feet...most are just not meant to fit real feet.

All the mens sjoes I’ve seen are measured 2,4E or 6E

if borrowing or renting another car is a possibility, maybe try that for a week and see how you feel. 🌸

I usually by my shoes bigger. I have to slide my foot all the way down into the toe box so that the extra space resulting from too big of shoe is in the back by the heel. Otherwise my pinky toe kills me from running into the side of the shoe. It doesn’t do this when I leave the extra space at the heel.

Dillon Lee I’m tempted to sell the bitch and get the Hyundai in the driveway fixed

I’ve tried it all including super wide shoes and my toe still hits the side